The Indigenous Religions: Healing Cults: A State of Shock
This is part of a study series to correlate ancient first religion beliefs with current medical studies appearing in the literature. As always please go talk to and see your medical doctor first. This is NOT intended to be medical or psychiatric advice OR intended to be a diagnostic aid. An example of how academically serious some of this is with regards to healing cults and medical ritual systems please see Neos Asklepios Glykon.
A State of Shock
Is what I lived in for years when I was growing up and it remains one of the “spiritual states of mind” to his day. The reason you never have heard of me or seen me in public appearances is due to the fact that my stomach area and liver was mechanically damaged (bruised internally) by repeated trauma when I was a child of 4 or 5 years old. Normal child development is stunted and changed if the child is in shock. I had a heart problem and the sitters were told to make me lie down like a dog with a pillow over my stomach and take off their shoe and do a chest thump. This turned into a story like this:
If he acts weird or upset you can “Shock his system like a dog”
As it turns out certain religions and cultures did this. They were supposed to use a pillow over the abdomen but sometimes they did not. I ended up having my first paracentesis when I was a little kid. Some people said that is how the ancient peoples treated their warrior children to make them tougher so they would feel less pain. That part is true to some extent which is why I am coming forward and writing this for you.
All over the world it matters a lot, that we can now finally put the ancient cultures and religions to work for us because we can investigate what they were doing, how they were living and what they believed. We now have the science that can prove it and the ability to communicate the truth quickly over the internet. That’s why it’s an exciting life. Some of these things are now just coming into the medical and scientific literature in the last 5 years that have a direct correlation to the ancient world. If I was going to put real money into research I would probably stick it into things that have a real correlation back into the ancient world. That means to me that it is not just a scientific or medical gimmick or small time science trick of the moment. If it is also in the old religions of the indigenous nations. It’s REAL. That’s why the old religions, archaeology and ethnography matter to everybody all around the planet.
Why does my church with the impossibly long name matter to everyone in the modern interpretive religions? We can now prove things that were part of the ancient religions that matter to everyone today. That’s why it matters, now back to my personal history:
If your liver is damaged your responses to hormones and neurotransmitters are changed and you can go into hypovolemic or hepatic shock relatively easily. It feels like a state of fear or excitement which moves into a disassociated mental state and an actual buzz a natural high where you do not feel pain as much and it’s a “spiritual high”.
When people get “jumped in” if their livers are damaged they will not feel as much pain as a normal person. “They will be stronger after this” This is true and the first time the pain is horrendous. If you do that to a small child of 4 to 6 you end up with a “medical experiment” of sorts. Speculation existed that this was how they made natural eunuch type people and if you cut off the testosterone from the testes using ligation bands that’s how you made a “Priest or Witch” in ancient times or one of those living greek roman statues with the small penises. If they survived that is.
People know this around me and that’s the reason for some of my personal life rules. If you are going to use shock in your spiritual or religious practice please do not do that around me. It works but it is a pretty harmful practice unless you are in that state of shock for another reason. You can lose years and years to “a state of shock” if you do not know what is happening to you.
This is not the same thing as PTSD as it it based on a different brain and body chemical mix.
We now know that IF the human brain is “living” in a different hormone and neurotransmitter mix that after approximately 6 months to a year the way we think will be changed and it will take about 1.5 to 3 years to come back to normal. This would be the long term physiological effects of what used to be called “battle fatigue” in WWII and it would last for as long as the external environmental stimuli were similar to what was experienced when living in that hormone and neurotransmitter mix. The human animal that had to live in that environment’s brain and body is changed.
It’s not just a simple thing to even describe.
Let’s give it a shot anyway: When our environmental stimuli changes our bodies will change as well, if the environmental stimuli is large enough to produce a emotional or physical feeling. That feeling is a reaction to the external stimuli or conversely a slower internal change that occurs within our own bodies as a result of practicing our religions. For example if you practice the Chinese and Japanese Zen tea ritual every day for over a year your body and mind will be different if you participate in chado or the tea way. If every day you sit and meditate and drink a diuretic stimulant you are going to be different than if you did not do that. If it is part of a prayer ceremony rather than a cultural activity then it becomes part of a religious practice. Those are the ones we need to look for because they have “physiological significance to humans”.
There are several spiritual states of mind that are used in religious practices. I will go into them later as time permits but here are a couple that have a real physical and mental component caused by neurotransmitter and hormone changes: fear, shock, sexual excitement and love. The liver and how it functions is in ancient religions especially Greek, it was responsible for “the 4 humors”. If you read that link keep in mind that what they are talking about includes religion and spirituality as a part of medicine. It is in only the last 25 years or so that we now have the medical studies and evidence that thousands and thousands of years ago was in ancient religions.
It’s not in the bible but it’s in The Old Religions.
You are living in a spiritual state of mind,..
You are in a warrior culture,..
People have felt like you for thousands and thousands of years,..
THE ANSWERS are in THE OTHER RELIGIONS and we can PROVE IT.
For some more information please read this article
All we all we are is us
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What’s new since the original Post?:
From: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4644574/pdf/hepatmon-15-10-27063.pdf (block quote)
Liver as an important organ in the body has a vital role in physiological processes. Liver function such as other organs is dependent on blood circulation and preparing the hepatic cells needs. Hepatic shock is also known as shock liver, ischemic hepatopathy or hypoxic hepatitis, which all have the same pathophysiology causing hepatic ischemia or hypoxia. Shock liver is characterized by elevation of hepatic enzymes either transient or persistent because of hepatic cellular injury. This rise in hepatic enzymes is subtle most of the times, but researches have shown some cases with high enzyme levels. It is detected frequently in critically ill patients, especially ICU patients. There is no specific treatment for hepatic shock, but it should be in mind in all ill patients and can be prevented by early resuscitation and treatment of underlying causes.
Comment on the above:
The symptoms of hepatic shock have to be on a “spectrum” (different types of effects) and in a range of intensity depending on the level of hepatic inefficiency and the whole state of the endocrine system.
Guessing here: Hepatic shock on a lightweight level would refer to the liver’s ability to get rid of the “action chemicals and messenger chemicals” being dumped and used in the system. At a certain point serum levels of adrenalin for example will overwhelm the body’s natural feedback mechanisms to shut the “adrenaline” off. (an example action chemical name) If more than one physical sense (sound, sight, pain) is calling for more adrenaline, more adrenaline, eventually the serum level has to go up and stay up. More likely the mix of chemicals in the bloodstream will change over time in the long term causing real neurological and physiological changes which take a long time to “undo”. If you approach the whole thing from a religious standpoint you are in a Warlike or Dark Goddess State of Trance my friends because of the medium term system stress state characterized by elevated levels of adrenaline.
For the kids:
This is not exactly true here but for a simple example:
A SSRI blocks the re-uptake of a chemical called serotonin by socketing into cellular receptors that use serotonin with another chemical that does not do the same thing to the cell. We have “receptor sites” in our bodies that when a chemical molecule comes by and lands on it, the cell munches on the chemical molecule and eats it like a pacman. When that happens the cell then does something different than what it was doing before it ate the molecule. If we block the cells that like the serotonin molecules from eating what we are going to call “bad molecules” by letting them eat less bad molecules then we can control certain systems, like a “serotonin” system. We say to the cells: Bad, that’s B.A.D. you guys are too hungry for that, eat something different. Here is something that looks the same and it fits the socket so eat this instead of that.
If your liver filter/reactor system is out of whack and messes with those message passing and molecule eating systems then the body can not control things as well with it’s normal message passing stuff like:
LESS Serotonin and Adrenaline please
MORE DOPAMINE! (LOL)
The endocrine system then hears the message and turns it down.
How fast is it? 15-30 seconds (or less) with some body chemicals.
Thank you science for letting us know that there is a scientific physical reason for what we are feeling. Thank you first religions for letting us know this simple truth: Do not mess with the Dark Goddess Worshipping Warrior Women.
—>>>because their chemicals are different when they are like that<<<—
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