The Rock and Roll Religion:
Radical Christianity and Religious Panics
Is radical christianity and religious panic the same thing?
“Radical Christian” families and religious panics—The 1980’s Satanic Panics come to mind—sometimes reveal themselves or surface like the folie à deux and delusional disorder by proxy in a family.
It has occured to me that if your child goes on a suicide run to the local synagogue or congregation hall you might want to look at something like the following with a leader/inducer i.e., some kind of a church leader as your causal link factor across internal and external family boundaries. If your inducer is in a leadership position that can create emotional induction effects then to the receiver of the emotional effects, a shared emotion is created that alters their personal worldview and a shared emotional reality is created.
This shared emotional reality includes real physiological effects that are associated with emotions and feelings. In fact often times they are synonymous and it is only after years of observing ourselves mentally and physically that we can find the associations between the emotions and the physical feelings.
Depending on whether the delusions are shared among two, three, four, five and even twelve people, it is called as folie à deux, folie à trios, folie à quatre, folie à cinq and folie à douze.
Legitimus comment --> Sounds like a Church I used to know with insert term here: "Radical Pentacostal Evangelical Charismatic Christians"
Excerpt from NCBI -->Shared psychotic disorder is mostly observed among people who live in close proximity and in close relationships.
It is found in parent-offspring, sibling-sibling, or husband-wife constellations. Furthermore, mother-daughter or sister-sister pairs represents fifty percent of the psychotic dyads.
Rarely all the family members share the same delusions, and this is called folie à famille. Additionally, there are case reports of physician-patient folie à deux and even a case involving a dog.
Risk factors include female gender, mental retardation, suggestibility, passivity, histrionic personality traits and suspiciousness, in the secondary patient. Moreover, dependency, ambivalent relationships and repetitive crises have been seen in the family.
There are several different types of inducers and induction effects a simple search will give you more to read about:
Legitmus extracted search results -->
Induction effect describes the result of introducing particular mental states or moods in individuals. Induce means to bring something about or be the cause of a result by generating something. ... The induction effect would be the resulting moods that were elicited by the passages the researchers gave the participants
Further references from:
Delusions are defined as ‘‘false beliefs . . . that are firmly sustained . . . despite what constitutes incontrovertible and obvious proof or evidence to the contrary’’ (American Psychiatric Association, 1994, p. 765). Although they are mostly observed in psychotic patients, experiences that resemble delusions and that we will refer to as delusional-like ideations have been shown to have a sizable frequency in the general normal population (Pe- ters, Joseph, Day, & Garety, 2004; Peters, Joseph, & Garety, 1999; van Os, Hanssen, Bijl, & Ravelli, 2000). In keeping with the continuum [Ed: a continuous sequence with steps between] between normality and pathology [Ed: sickness or diseased state] (Colbert & Peters, 2002; Shevlin, Murphy, Dorahy, & Adamson, 2007), schizotypal traits in healthy subjects can be associated with cognitive mechanisms similar to those observed in patients with schizophrenia symptoms.
Several theories have been proposed to explain the formation and persistence of delusions (for a review, see Freeman, 2007). One of them accounts for the maintenance of delusions despite contradictory evidence. It consists of a deficit in the processing of information that disconfirms beliefs and their corresponding expectancies (Moritz & Woodward, 2006; Woodward, Buchy, Mo- ritz, & Liotti, 2007; Woodward, Moritz, Cuttler, & Whitman, 2006
Psychophysiology, 48 (2011), 937–949. Wiley Periodicals, Inc. Printed in the USA. Copyright r 2010 Society for Psychophysiological Research
DOI: 10.1111/j.1469-8986.2010.01160.x
Editors note:
It seems that the researchers are observing that normal people can have ideas that are delusional as well as experiences in their world that resemble delusions. If you can not process or absorb enough information that is contradictory evidence to your normal belief then you maintain a delusion. Which can be a falsely held viewpoint or perspective of an event as well as a deeply held belief that contradicts normality.
The DSM definition of “delusion“ includes an important caveat: delusions are beliefs that are not ordinarily accepted by other members of the person’s culture or subculture.
Discovering delusional beliefs is a difficult thing to do but many examples exist in organized religion such as the delusion that the Noah legend is a fact and it happened exactly as written in the Bible. We would have vastly different DNA distributions if the Noah story or legend were 100% true. Scientifically what was described is impossible but as a legend or ancient play it makes sense and is acceptable. Teaching it to people as actual reality and not as a story is where a lifelong problem can start.
A medical example:
“A small heart attack is OK” “We are trying to give that person a small heart attack so they go to the hospital and have a liver transplant”
More real world Christianity examples:
If you are dealing with the newly converted Christians for example it makes no sense for them to try to “Talk to Satan” or be “Spirit Warriors for Jesus” and attack Satan or evil spirits by yelling at them or playing tapes at an echo.
Another delusional belief would be: “We are training a Angel to come to the church where it can speak to the congregation” Believing that you can do that (Control an Angel) is contrary to your own religion and is by definition a delusion. It’s not a normal belief in your Christian culture.
Yet another delusional statement (actually put forward by a local pastor) was:
“Your mind is not your own all your thoughts are from Satan”
He told their family: “You need to talk to that person 24 hours a day so Satan can not get back in her mind”.
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